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		<title>By: boatworker</title>
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		<dc:creator>boatworker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope it&#039;s Magic&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope it&#8217;s Magic<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Loveridge D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loveridge D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 01:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why dont you corner some micro biology egg heads ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why dont you corner some micro biology egg heads ?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: ststeve11</title>
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		<dc:creator>ststeve11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there was at some time a connection to other watercourses, it is possible without human intervention.  It doesn&#039;t take much.  A flood can connect isolated water bodies.  Geologic changes can also isolate formerly connected water bodies.  Some anadromous fish have fresh-water-only analogues - Steelhead and Rainbow Trout, for example - due to huge changes in the Earth&#039;s formation and constant transformations.

Either connected to other water courses, even in the distant past, or human intervention.  No such thing as eggs attached to bird&#039;s legs surviving the desiccating flight.

But I do believe in magic!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ex-fisheries biologist...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there was at some time a connection to other watercourses, it is possible without human intervention.  It doesn&#8217;t take much.  A flood can connect isolated water bodies.  Geologic changes can also isolate formerly connected water bodies.  Some anadromous fish have fresh-water-only analogues &#8211; Steelhead and Rainbow Trout, for example &#8211; due to huge changes in the Earth&#8217;s formation and constant transformations.</p>
<p>Either connected to other water courses, even in the distant past, or human intervention.  No such thing as eggs attached to bird&#8217;s legs surviving the desiccating flight.</p>
<p>But I do believe in magic!<br /><b>References : </b><br />Ex-fisheries biologist&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Earl J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently was working on a new construction site where houses were being built in a new subdivision(central Florida) and there was a recently made small retention pond that had a tiny dead perch raked out by a worker cleaning trash out of the edges of the pond. No human would have begun stocking fish in this, still now, unlivable polluted water. There have been no floods from anywhere or even any animals that could have possibly carried transfer to here. Fish can not yet live in this pond, yet something.........probably an osprey or gull has already perhaps instinctively begun to seed this new (tiny) body of water.  I have no direct proof of this, but,  there you have it. My guess is ospreys which are quite numerous in Florida and would seem to be a &#039;more intelligent?&#039; species of bird........however I did notice a number of egrets around this tiny man-made retention pond.  Go figure&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently was working on a new construction site where houses were being built in a new subdivision(central Florida) and there was a recently made small retention pond that had a tiny dead perch raked out by a worker cleaning trash out of the edges of the pond. No human would have begun stocking fish in this, still now, unlivable polluted water. There have been no floods from anywhere or even any animals that could have possibly carried transfer to here. Fish can not yet live in this pond, yet something&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;probably an osprey or gull has already perhaps instinctively begun to seed this new (tiny) body of water.  I have no direct proof of this, but,  there you have it. My guess is ospreys which are quite numerous in Florida and would seem to be a &#8216;more intelligent?&#8217; species of bird&#8230;&#8230;..however I did notice a number of egrets around this tiny man-made retention pond.  Go figure<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: formerly_bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>formerly_bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fish stocking has occurred for such long time, that there are hardly any water bodies that don&#039;t have fish in them.  Most people don&#039;t realize that many water bodies would not have fish if people didn&#039;t stock them.  There are records of people stocking fish throughout history, as far back 1000 B.C. in China, and during the Middle Ages in Europe.  

There&#039;s only four ways that fish can get into another water body: floods; by &#039;waking&#039; over land; transportation by another species; and in extremely rare circumstances, through tornados that siphon water.  

Floods happen regularly and they are the most common mechanism for temporarily connecting water bodies.  Not many fish can travel very far out of water - no species native to North America travel across land for more than a few feet.  

Its pretty rare for an animal other than humans to transport fish.  Its possible than osprey might drop a fish, or that an egg mass could get stuck to the foot of a wading bird and get deposited alive somewhere else, but these types of things have an extremely low probability of happening.  Only those fish species that have sticky eggs are likely to be moved by birds.  There are no records of fish introductions by birds, but the possibility has not been disproved.

Tornados occcasionally cross water bodies and siphon small fish and dump the fish elsewhere, but this happens in the US only a few times per century, and the fish don&#039;t usually travel very far from their source.  There are a few documented cases of fish showing up on the ground following tornados, but it is no known if this mechanism has ever introduced fish to a new water body.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fish stocking has occurred for such long time, that there are hardly any water bodies that don&#8217;t have fish in them.  Most people don&#8217;t realize that many water bodies would not have fish if people didn&#8217;t stock them.  There are records of people stocking fish throughout history, as far back 1000 B.C. in China, and during the Middle Ages in Europe.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s only four ways that fish can get into another water body: floods; by &#8216;waking&#8217; over land; transportation by another species; and in extremely rare circumstances, through tornados that siphon water.  </p>
<p>Floods happen regularly and they are the most common mechanism for temporarily connecting water bodies.  Not many fish can travel very far out of water &#8211; no species native to North America travel across land for more than a few feet.  </p>
<p>Its pretty rare for an animal other than humans to transport fish.  Its possible than osprey might drop a fish, or that an egg mass could get stuck to the foot of a wading bird and get deposited alive somewhere else, but these types of things have an extremely low probability of happening.  Only those fish species that have sticky eggs are likely to be moved by birds.  There are no records of fish introductions by birds, but the possibility has not been disproved.</p>
<p>Tornados occcasionally cross water bodies and siphon small fish and dump the fish elsewhere, but this happens in the US only a few times per century, and the fish don&#8217;t usually travel very far from their source.  There are a few documented cases of fish showing up on the ground following tornados, but it is no known if this mechanism has ever introduced fish to a new water body.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Eyelid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eyelid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when it floods water courses link up and fish are flushed from one pool to another. when the water dries up these fish are then trapped in the isolated pools.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when it floods water courses link up and fish are flushed from one pool to another. when the water dries up these fish are then trapped in the isolated pools.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: S T of India</title>
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		<dc:creator>S T of India</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In our forest preserves we have restored many marshes, both large and 
small, that had been drained or partially drained by former owners of 
the land. By blocking tile drains and building low dams at the natural 
outlets from valleys or low wet areas, we not only have restored old 
marshes but have created many new lakes, lagoons, ponds and 
sloughs.

Such areas soon become populated with aquatic plants and animals. 
Then they attract many kinds of wildlife that come there to drink, 
bathe, prey and feed, or build their homes. Such areas have life, beauty 
and interest the whole year round. We call them &quot;Wildlife Oases&quot;. But 
they present one problem, important in a county of 4,500,000 people: 
mosquitoes.

Fortunately, the Chicago region has a fish immigrant from the 
southern state with which we control the mosquitoes that breed in such 
waters. It is the Mosquitofish, or Gambusia, one of the little 
topminnows or killifishes, and a near relative of the guppies, 
swordtails and moons -- popular aquarium fishes also from warmer 
climates. Like them, and unlike the other native killifishes of the 
northern states, the young of the Gambusia are born alive. It is called 
the mosquitofish because, more than any other kind, it regularly feeds 
among trash and vegetation in shallow water and along shores where 
mosquitoes breed.

It was first successfully introduced into northern Illinois in 1923, when 
some of these fish were brought from a pond on the campus of 
Southern Illinois Normal University, at Carbondale, and placed in a 
garden pool in Winnetka, a north shore suburb of Chicago. 
Carbondale, over 300 miles south, is near the northern limit of the 
Gambusia&#039;s normal range.

In 1928 and 1929, more of these little fish from the Carbondale pond 
were placed in ponds on golf courses near Chicago by the DesPlaines 
Valley Mosquito Abatement District; but none survived in a winter. 
So, in 1933, this organization obtained mosquitofish from the 
Winnetka pool and placed them in ponds in our forest preserves and 
elsewhere. Enough of these survived and multiplied so that these 
ponds have served as hatcheries for further distribution of this hardy 
&quot;naturalized&quot; northern strain, obtained by unique good fortune from 
one or more rare individual fish adapted to survive long winters 
beneath the ice. Since 1941, some of this same strain have been 
successfully planted in a variety of Michigan waters as far north as the 
Straits of Mackinac.

The two sexes of the mosquitofish are more strikingly different in size 
than any other native fish. The mature female is usually less than two 
inches long but she is twice as long and about ten times as heavy as 
the mature male. Females usually produce 3 or 4 broods in a season 
and an average of about 50 young per brood, but exceptionally large 
females may give birth to broods of 300 young. Apparently, 
mosquitofish do not often live longer than two years.

Mosquitoes lay little raft-like masses of eggs on the surface of water. 
These hatch out larvae which must come frequently to the surface to 
breathe. After they become pupae, the pupa dangles from the surface 
film of the water by a tube thru which it breathes. Mosquitofish have 
upturned mouths, and they work along the surface, gobbling down 
mosquito eggs, larvae and pupae. In some waters these fish multiply 
until they not only effectively control mosquitoes but also serve as an 
important item of food for hook-and-line fish. It may develop that the 
introduction of Gambusia into waters of the &quot;vacation regions&quot; of the 
northern states may accomplish more, in two ways, to increase the 
pleasure of vacationists than many more expensive programs of fish 
management and of mosquitofish control.

Water plus Gambusia equals recreation minus mosquitoes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our forest preserves we have restored many marshes, both large and<br />
small, that had been drained or partially drained by former owners of<br />
the land. By blocking tile drains and building low dams at the natural<br />
outlets from valleys or low wet areas, we not only have restored old<br />
marshes but have created many new lakes, lagoons, ponds and<br />
sloughs.</p>
<p>Such areas soon become populated with aquatic plants and animals.<br />
Then they attract many kinds of wildlife that come there to drink,<br />
bathe, prey and feed, or build their homes. Such areas have life, beauty<br />
and interest the whole year round. We call them &quot;Wildlife Oases&quot;. But<br />
they present one problem, important in a county of 4,500,000 people:<br />
mosquitoes.</p>
<p>Fortunately, the Chicago region has a fish immigrant from the<br />
southern state with which we control the mosquitoes that breed in such<br />
waters. It is the Mosquitofish, or Gambusia, one of the little<br />
topminnows or killifishes, and a near relative of the guppies,<br />
swordtails and moons &#8212; popular aquarium fishes also from warmer<br />
climates. Like them, and unlike the other native killifishes of the<br />
northern states, the young of the Gambusia are born alive. It is called<br />
the mosquitofish because, more than any other kind, it regularly feeds<br />
among trash and vegetation in shallow water and along shores where<br />
mosquitoes breed.</p>
<p>It was first successfully introduced into northern Illinois in 1923, when<br />
some of these fish were brought from a pond on the campus of<br />
Southern Illinois Normal University, at Carbondale, and placed in a<br />
garden pool in Winnetka, a north shore suburb of Chicago.<br />
Carbondale, over 300 miles south, is near the northern limit of the<br />
Gambusia&#8217;s normal range.</p>
<p>In 1928 and 1929, more of these little fish from the Carbondale pond<br />
were placed in ponds on golf courses near Chicago by the DesPlaines<br />
Valley Mosquito Abatement District; but none survived in a winter.<br />
So, in 1933, this organization obtained mosquitofish from the<br />
Winnetka pool and placed them in ponds in our forest preserves and<br />
elsewhere. Enough of these survived and multiplied so that these<br />
ponds have served as hatcheries for further distribution of this hardy<br />
&quot;naturalized&quot; northern strain, obtained by unique good fortune from<br />
one or more rare individual fish adapted to survive long winters<br />
beneath the ice. Since 1941, some of this same strain have been<br />
successfully planted in a variety of Michigan waters as far north as the<br />
Straits of Mackinac.</p>
<p>The two sexes of the mosquitofish are more strikingly different in size<br />
than any other native fish. The mature female is usually less than two<br />
inches long but she is twice as long and about ten times as heavy as<br />
the mature male. Females usually produce 3 or 4 broods in a season<br />
and an average of about 50 young per brood, but exceptionally large<br />
females may give birth to broods of 300 young. Apparently,<br />
mosquitofish do not often live longer than two years.</p>
<p>Mosquitoes lay little raft-like masses of eggs on the surface of water.<br />
These hatch out larvae which must come frequently to the surface to<br />
breathe. After they become pupae, the pupa dangles from the surface<br />
film of the water by a tube thru which it breathes. Mosquitofish have<br />
upturned mouths, and they work along the surface, gobbling down<br />
mosquito eggs, larvae and pupae. In some waters these fish multiply<br />
until they not only effectively control mosquitoes but also serve as an<br />
important item of food for hook-and-line fish. It may develop that the<br />
introduction of Gambusia into waters of the &quot;vacation regions&quot; of the<br />
northern states may accomplish more, in two ways, to increase the<br />
pleasure of vacationists than many more expensive programs of fish<br />
management and of mosquitofish control.</p>
<p>Water plus Gambusia equals recreation minus mosquitoes.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: churie78</title>
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		<dc:creator>churie78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can get into ponds if there is a feeder stream or a flood from a nearby water course. I suppose it&#039;s plausible that eggs could be transported via water fowl. Eels will travel across land to search for water.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can get into ponds if there is a feeder stream or a flood from a nearby water course. I suppose it&#8217;s plausible that eggs could be transported via water fowl. Eels will travel across land to search for water.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: tommo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the eggs are more likely to be attached to pond weed that gets transports from pond to pond.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the eggs are more likely to be attached to pond weed that gets transports from pond to pond.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: mike w</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>other than someone putting fish in themselves,ain&#039;t got a clue.also,what the hell is bamma going on about?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>other than someone putting fish in themselves,ain&#8217;t got a clue.also,what the hell is bamma going on about?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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